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Got long legs and can't seem to use all your power with
standard 180mm (or shorter) crank arms? Order a set of Zinn custom extra long
cranks and get that extra power you're looking for. It only makes sense that
your cranks should be proportional to your legs, not a length designed for
somebody a lot shorter than you! Our extra-long cranks are available with a
maximum length of 220mm and are specifically beefed up for bigger riders. You
won't believe the difference they make!
Or, got short legs and have trouble getting your legs
around with your standard 165mm or 170mm crank arms? Order a set of Zinn custom
extra short cranks and get that extra comfort, efficiency and smooth spin you're
looking for. It only makes sense that your cranks should be proportional to your
legs, not a length designed for somebody a lot taller than you! Our extra-short
cranks are available with a minimum length of 130mm. You won't believe the
difference they make!
Try multiplying your inseam (in millimeters) by 0.21 or
0.216 to get a range of crank lengths appropriate for you. See below for more on
this.
We substitute these cranks into our component packages
for even better pricing with a custom Zinn bike. And, of course, we design the
bottom bracket height and seat tube length and angle to work with your
custom-length cranks.
We offer the cranks in 130mm bolt circle for Shimano
double, 135mm bolt circle for Campagnolo double, 130/74mm Shimano triple
pattern, 135/74mm Campagnolo triple pattern, 110mm compact road double, 110/74mm
compact road triple, and 94/58mm five-arm mountain Shimano triple pattern.
Again, we can make them from 130mm to 220mm and can do tandem configurations as
well. We ship them with a Shimano UN53 or UN73 square-taper bottom bracket. Some
sizes we have in stock; others may take a maximum of two months to deliver,
depending on orders at the time and anodizing batch sizes.
Price is $459 for the arms and the bottom bracket
(square taper, length specific for our crank), and shipping is $10 within the
continental USA (we also ship internationally). You can order the cranks from
our online store or simply send a check for $469 to the
following address and we'll get started right away:
Zinn Cycles 7437 S. Boulder Rd. Boulder, CO · 80303 · USA
Also note that we are now
offering custom Ti Cranks for $695. Titanium cranks are much lighter
and stronger than our aluminum custom cranks. Available in lengths from 185mm to
220mm. ISIS splined. Spider included.
E-mail us at l.zinn@comcast.net to determine
the price for orders outside of the continental USA.
Why custom cranks and how long to get them? Here is the
formula I recommend:
Crank length (mm) = Inseam (mm) X 0.216
Or, more conservatively for tall riders:
Crank length (mm) = Inseam (mm) X 0.21
Another formula that I like is from fit guru Bill Boston
(www.billbostoncycles.com) and comes up with similar
results. He suggests measuring your femur (thighbone) from the center of the hip
joint to the end of the bone in inches. This number will be your crank length in
centimeters. For instance, if you have a 20” femur, you would have a 20cm
(200mm) crank.
Andy Pruitt, director of the Boulder Center for Sports
Medicine and fit expert of many superstars, has a few other things to add.
“Crank length formulas using femoral length or leg length are fine,” he says.
“But if your style is mashing, use longer cranks, and if you are a spinner,
shorten them a bit. Mountain bike cranks should be a bit longer for that moment
to get you over a rock. Use 2.5mm or 5mm longer for purely time trial usage, and
vice versa for the track.” Pruitt warns that, although one study showed that
everybody was faster with a super-long crank over short distances, you can hurt
yourself if you do not stick to proportionality. Pruitt goes on to say that if
you use cranks too long for your legs, the compressive and shear forces in the
knee joints “go up exponentially.” (Compressive forces in the knee are stagnant,
felt behind the knee. Shear forces are the result of fore-aft sliding of the
condyles – cartilage-covered rounded femur ends – as they are rotating on the
soft meniscus – cartilage pad – atop the knee platform.)
What else to change?
Before I get into the whys and wherefores of these
formulas for crank length, I want to tell you what other ramifications adjusting
the crank length has on your bike position. It makes sense that if you increase
your crank length, you should lower your saddle and stem by the amount of the
change, and vice versa for decreasing crank length. This maintains the same
pedal-to-saddle reach. However, in practice with riders on stock frames and
cranks, I have found that it is often preferable to leave the stem and bar where
they were and only move the saddle. With tall riders, this is because they often
have an exceptionally large amount of drop from their saddle to their handlebars
anyway, if they have shoehorned themselves onto a bike that is too small for
them. Increasing the crank length requires lowering the saddle the amount of the
length change; that’s a given, assuming your seat height was correct before. But
the longer crank will make the knees come up higher and may hit the chest and
give an uncomfortably sharp hip angle if the large amount of drop from saddle to
bar is maintained. Conversely, a short rider may have minimal drop from their
saddle to bar on a stock frame, having already lowered the handlebar as far as
it could go. This may be as low as they can tolerate having their handlebar
anyway, since if their stock crank length may be proportionately so long for
them that their knees come up very high, and they cannot drop their chest down
very far without contacting them. When they switch to a proportionate-length
crank, the saddle will come up the length of the crank-length decrease, giving
them more saddle-to-handlebar drop, which may work out well, since their knees
will not be coming up so high, and they will not be so constrained by their hip
angles and chest height.
You could argue that you should also push the saddle
forward and increase your stem length by the amount of the length increase as
well. This adds some complexity, because, to maintain the same pedal-to-saddle
distance and saddle-to-bar drop, the seat and handlebar should also go up half
the distance of the forward movement as well. The inverse is true if you switch
to a shorter crank – raise the saddle and bar the amount of the length change
and perhaps adjust the saddle aft.
With a longer crank, your pedal clearance in a corner
will be reduced, and vice versa with a shorter crank. So, ideally, the frame’s
bottom bracket height should be greater with the longer crank and lower with the
shorter one. And since more or less of your leg extension will be taken up in
the crank if it is longer or shorter, the seat tube should be shortened or
lengthened accordingly (from the bottom, by raising or lowering the bottom
bracket).
Why proportionality between leg and crank length?
No other conclusion makes sense to me. Muscles and
joints work most effectively when operating in a certain range of motion. Short
riders should not be required to force their muscles through a greater range of
motion than the person with an 80cm inseam riding a 172.5mm crank. And on the
other end, 7-foot basketball players do not bend their legs any less when they
jump than shorter players. So why should they use minimal knee bend and operate
their muscles only through a tiny part of their range when they ride a bike?
I published some crank-length tests in VeloNews in 1995
and 1996. These tests were either inconclusive or seemed to indicate that all
riders, regardless of size, put out more maximum power with super-long (220mm)
cranks, and that all riders had lower heart rates at low power outputs with
super-short cranks (100 to 130mm). My experimental method in these tests was
lacking in those tests, but I was simply not willing to stop there, since I knew
from personal experience that increasing crank length for a tall rider like
myself (6’6”) makes a difference. It also made sense to me that there must be a
limitation dependent on rider size for how long you can go. In the late 1970s,
when I went from 177.5mm to 180mm cranks, the improvement in my racing results
was marked. In 1980 when I was on the national team, coach Eddie Borysewicz told
me that I should be using yet longer cranks than my 180s, and longer yet for
time trials and hill climbs, but I never found anything longer at that time.
Since then, I have continued to experiment, beginning by using the range of
cranks that Bruce Boone built for those 1996 tests (eight cranks, evenly spaced
between 100mm and 220mm) and of these eight, I found that I was most happy with
202.3mm cranks. (The weird length has nothing to do with some super-accurate
calculation related to my leg length; it is because the eight test cranks were
evenly spaced between 100mm and 220mm, or every 17+ millimeters.) Eventually,
those Boone 202.3s broke, and we started making our own (stronger) custom
cranks. For at least three years now, I have been riding 205mm cranks most of
the time (200mm on the mountain bike, due to clearance constraints) and find
that I not only like them, but that I am considerably faster on the nearby,
approximately half-hour climb up Flasgstaff mountain west of Boulder that I do
frequently with a stopwatch.
Thus encouraged, I have conducted other crank studies
ever since. However, in understanding what went wrong in those 1995 and 1996
tests, I developed higher standards for what constitutes a publishable test, and
my subsequent tests still have not met that standard, mostly due to having too
few subjects (often just me and a couple of other riders). Too bad, because I
have put a lot of time and effort into a number of them! It is one thing if you
are a physiology researcher trained and funded to do these sorts of studies. It
is not easy to do a test in which you eliminate all other variables besides
crank length. It requires lots of time, planning, willing (read, paid) subjects
and equipment. It’s hardly the type of thing that is realistic to undertake with
no budget in order to write one article for a cycling magazine that still
expects an article from me on something else every two weeks as well. Anyway, I
have conducted all of these recent tests on the road with tall riders (6’5” and
over) because it was simpler and cheaper to use my personal stable of bikes than
to always be switching cranks on other people’s bikes. By being willing to take
my custom crank recommendations, my tall custom frame customers have also have
graciously acted as test subjects. Besides having data showing people going
faster and generating more power on my own personal bikes, it is hard to deny it
when you have many people raving about how much more comfortable, natural and
powerful they feel on cranks proportional to their leg length. On mountain
bikes, tall customers report being able to smoothly power over obstacles they
could not have before. They also report liking the longer, more stable stance
when coasting downhill over technical obstacles. And the higher bottom bracket I
build into the frame makes hitting the chainrings on logs and the like almost
impossible (especially with 29-inch wheels), yet the rider’s center of gravity
is no higher (since the bottom foot is still the same height above the ground
due to the longer crank).
The results indicate clearly enough to me that crank
length must be proportional to rider size in some way. Whether you decide it is
proportional to leg length, thigh length, overall height or something else is a
minor point. The same goes for what you think the constant of proportionality
should be. It could be something different from 0.21 or 0.216, but whatever it
is, it will indicate for a lot of people that they should be using a vastly
different length than they are. That is the part that is hard to accept for a
lot of people. No matter our size, we are by and large all stuck on cranks of
the same length. The 3% difference between a 170mm and a 175mm hardly
constitutes a length choice, and the 180mm you can find in only top-end
component groups still does not broaden the range much. Accepting that cranks
should be scaled up or down with rider size opens up a whole can of worms that a
lot of riders, bikes-shop personnel and component companies would just as soon
stayed closed. Obviously, economies of scale of producing cranks go out the
window if you have to supply a range from say, 140mm to 220mm, and a bike shop’s
inventory costs go way up to stock a lot more lengths as well. The same goes for
bike frames; if a manufacturer increases the bottom bracket height with every
increase in frame size in order to accommodate crank arms proportional to the
size of the rider, its costs and complexity of frame jigs goes up, and the staff
training and inventory costs for bike shops goes up as well.
There are obvious practical reasons to stick with the
status quo. Those may have to do with what is best for the pocketbooks of
consumers, bike shops, and manufacturers, but not what is best for the rider’s
performance and comfort.
The constant of proportionality
Okay, if you have accepted the idea of a proportional
relationship between leg and crank length, how would you come up with the
constant of proportionality relating them? I propose that one way would be by
looking at what works for a wide range of riders. For instance, the world is
full of successful bike racers with 80cm (31.5”) inseams. Thirty years ago,
racers with inseams this length probably would have been racing on 170mm cranks.
Nowadays, they would likely be on the extremely popular 172.5mm length. (In
2003, approximately 50% of the high-end carbon road cranks that FSA sold were
172.5mm, 35% were 175mm, and only 15% were 170mm. Campagnolo’s approximate 2003
sales numbers were 60% in 172.5mm, 30% in 170mm and 10% in 175mm. That is a big
change from around 1970, when the vast majority of all high-end road cranks were
170mm.) If a rider has an 800mm (80cm) inseam, 170/800 = 0.2125. In other words,
a 170mm crank would be 21.3% of an 80cm leg length. Furthermore, a 172.5mm would
be 21.6% of it, while 165mm would be 20.6% and 175mm would be 21.9%. So, if you
multiply a rider’s inseam in millimeters by 0.213 or 0.216, you will determine a
crank in the same proportion as a 170mm or 172.5mm for a rider with an 80cm
inseam. Both riders’ knees and hips will go through the same bending range, and
their muscles will reach the same extension and contraction.
If you want to be conservative on the long end, you
could go with 0.21 for the constant. This is what I have been doing for a number
of years with my very tall custom frame customers. For instance, a 6’7” rider
with a 100mm inseam would use a 210mm crank with a 30cm high bottom bracket. My
tall and short customers opting for custom, proportional cranks almost
universally love the new length. On the other hand, 0.21 gives surprising
numbers on the short end, like 168mm for our rider with the 80cm inseam. So you
could argue for 0.216, since that yields 172.5mm for an 80cm inseam, consistent
with what we see in pro racing. The 6’7” rider’s crankarm gets 6mm longer with
0.216 than 0.21, but notice that we are now haggling over a few millimeters
while being centimeters beyond where the tall rider would have been when locked
into the normal crank length range.
Can you test for what is ideal for you?
Trying various cranks and seeing how you measure up
against other riders with whom you are competitive or timing yourself up a climb
you frequently clock is a good way. There are adjustable-length cranks
available, but they are boat anchors and increase your stance width, rendering
objectivity difficult. On http://www.nettally.com/palmk/Crankset.html Kirby Palm
offers some ideas about crank length testing.
*IMPORTANT: Check the tightening torque on your crankarm
fixing bolts on your Zinn custom cranks after the first five hours of riding and
every 1,000 miles after that. Torque spec for the crankarm fixing bolt is
420-435 inch-pounds (35-36 foot-pounds, or 47-49 N-m).
Zinn Custom Crank Testimonials
Well I have been using the 200mm cranks now for a few weeks and I love them…I
saw immediate improvements in power on the flat and especially in climbing…On
my old 180mm cranks I used the traditional 39 / 53 chain-ring combo but I have
now changed to 44 / 56 and find that where I used to ride comfortably in the 39
x 15 on my easy days, I now feel like I am using the same effort (and the same
cadence) in the 44 x 15…but obviously riding measurably faster…I have not
needed bigger than the 21t where I frequently need to bail out to the 25t on
steep pitches…as far as power is concerned, on the same hill where I used to
struggle to hold 320 watts for 30 mins (3.2 watts/ kilo) I can now hold 410
(4.1 watts / kilo), this is probably the most significant measure of success
here…
As far as the extra height in the pedal stroke, I actually feel smoother with
the long cranks, I practice yoga at least twice a week and I am sure this has
an effect on allowing the range of motion of my hips especially to make the
transition. The extra 20mm at the bottom of the stroke has taken a little time
to adjust, essentially relearning my corner pedaling boundaries, but I have
noticed a huge improvement in non-pedaling cornering due to the lower center of
gravity. I suspect that this improvement outweighs the loss of pedaling in the
tightest of corners…
--Steve McGrath
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